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Curtate Cycloid Lines and F-Holes » UnRulyRecursion
Apr 022012
 

I have been doing some research on archtop guitars and luthierie, because I would like to build myself an electric archtop semi-hollow guitar.  Being that I believe all reasonably modern fabrication usually involves CAD, I have been trying to model the guitar in Autodesk Inventor.  With any luck, I can avoid becoming a master craftsman at woodworking and use CNC techniques to fabricate my guitar with pretty good quality.

Archtop guitars are just what they sound like, Arch-topped!  So, unlike your flat-topped acoustics that most people think of, we have a side profile of the guitar front (and back) that is not flat.

The trick was, I did not know what the shape of that arch really is, which is important to being able to model it.  I did have a topo map of the guitar top on the plans, but I do not really trust it.  It might be sufficient if one is only using hand tools and simpler power tools, to fabricate the guitar, but I am going all out modern CNC.

The Curtate Cycloid

After googling around a bit, I discovered this picture, showing this shape is a curtate cycloid.  A regular cycloid line is formed by drawing a line from a point on a circle while rolling the circle along a straight line.  Unlike the regular cycloid, a curtate cycloid is formed by drawing a line from a point on a smaller, concentric circle inside the larger rolling circle.  Mathworld has a really good graphical explanation of how it works:

After watching that neat gif for a few minutes, it becomes readily apparent why Cremonese violin makers would choose this shape, the geometry is easy to draw.  I found a tool for generating the shape, but its meant for printing out templates, not for adding to a CAD drawing.  I have recently read that Autodesk Inventor 2013 has a new feature allowing mathematically defined equation curves, but since I just got 2012 installed, I think I will put that off a bit.  Instead, I created a spreadsheet to generate points for a spline in Inventor.  The math is pretty simple, read about it on the Mathworld website.

Download the Spreadsheet: CurtateCycloid

F-Hole Geometry

I had previously thought that the shape of the F-hole was largely an aesthetic thing, and I didn’t care to particularly for the shape of the F-hole on the set of plans I have.  So I thought, “gee, maybe I can look up some F-hole placement and geometry and find something I like.”  Well, to my surprise, the shape and position are apparently quite effective in shaping tone, but the method of determining the best shape is largely empirical.  Since I am not really interested in the PhD level research involved for analyzing sound hole shapes, plus my guitar is semi-hollow and electric, perhaps it is a bit less critical.

I tend to like the Stradivarius shape, but I also like the diamond in the middle of the original pattern.  I will probably combine them to get a design I like for my guitar.  For comparison, here is the Gibson ES335 shape, the Stradivarius, Del Gesu, and Baumgartner F-hole hapes.

This really awesome violin building forum thread is where I got most of the links and info on cool F-hole stuff:

Maestronet Forum Thread

For Reference, I bounced through these interesting sites while trying to figure out how to model an archtop guitar:

 

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